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Dealing with closed salary negotiation

I am looking for a Job switch in Software Development using Microsoft technologies. I have finished will all the procedures with the organization and waiting for the offer but here is the twist.

Generally speaking of salary in Asia/India we get paid current salary + 30% of current salary for the next job. But here is the problem

1. My Current salary is not on par with the industry standard. So +30% would lead me no where to comfort or happiness
2. I proved my knowledge and worth to the organization but they are closed to negotiations other than +30% , but i want to be paid market stand. Is this notion wrong?
3. They are trying to level down my salary with no reason ( I asked them for reasons, but they had none)

Is expecting a salary in market standard (from a non market standard) means not getting the offer. Also is the HR team at India paid to Pay you low !! How do i react to situation like these and get the company to pay me
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tynamite's avatar This is India we're talking about, not Britain, so I expect there to be


  • No unions (if your hours and wage is cut, there's no group to strike with)
  • No nationwide government set minimum wage (the industries voluntarily set their minimum wage themselves)
  • No age discrimination laws (for when younger people get paid less in the same job)
  • No employment tribunal (you can get fired for any reason without there being an accepted procedure to contest if you are fired unfairly)


So in short, you have no rights.

As of now, you don't have a job, so anything to do with getting fired, can be crossed off the list. You want a way so you can negotiate a high wage for yourself, without depriving your place of a job.

The first factor you can consider is how easily you can be replaced. Because you haven't yet worked for the company for any longer than a month (presumably), you can easily be replaced as you haven't yet proved your worth to them. Just talking your worth, is not enough as it doesn't mean anything.

One thing India has which is weird to people living in other countries are Technical Colleges of which focus on only academic subjects such as English, Maths, Science, Business, and IT. And the IT lesson focuses on the web development stuff that us lot know you for, so you all know it. It's weird because the vocational courses such as Art, Design, Sociology, Philosophy, Citizenship, don't exist.

As countries such as India and Romania are highly stratified with many children contemplating not having opportunities, the Technical Colleges are there to supposedly get the children and next generation out of that predicament.

Considering this, you can be replaced very easily.

What the HR team is doing by trying to pay people as low as possible (and presumably get a bonus when they meet their targets), is illegal. This is much like how AOL made it hard for people to cancel their internet subscription.

The legal definition of fraud is when someone makes money through deception.

I think you'll find after reading that above sentence, that fraud is what the HR of your employer is doing.

If you dare to contest them on this, you'll be told "You either take it, or you leave the job and sue me. Take it or leave it."

I don't think you're going to want to sue because of this, as I'm not sure how your legal system works and your reputation isn't hampered because of this. (I heard you have Legal Aid but I'm not sure how it works.)

The best legal advice I ever got, is "unless your reputation or health is at risk, do not sue"

I'm not sure whether you not being paid market standard isn't because your employer can't afford it as a small company as they don't set the voluntary rates, or because they are exploitative. I would go with exploitative.

Talking about me however (like you asked), I managed to negotiate my way from £9 an hour up to £12 an hour. That's much more than people my age [students] are being paid. I said I wanted £9 when I got contacted, and then in the follow-up where I was given my credentials, I then asked for £12 with a good excuse I made up (fees), and I got allowed the £12 an hour.

I knew it was possible for me to get the raise before I'd even started working there, so I went for it. If I didn't think it was possible, I wouldn't have went for it. It's all about assessing risk before you ask an invasive prepososition question.

If it's not possible for you to get a raise, then you shouldn't go for it. If it is, then you should. (Really it isn't.)

This is the sad part, I know, but you'll have to take it or leave it.

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