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Why do women have to have an equal proportion of power as men? Through the lens of evolutionary biology/psychology there's a bigger incentive for men to acquire wealth/power, than for women. Why is this wrong?

Why is this a problem?

If we look at the issue through the lens of evolutionary biology/psychology, we can see that both sexes have different mating strategies and find different things attractive on the opposite sex.

In general, men value beauty and youth. Also in general, women value financial stability (wealth), status and power. This is how we're wired. So of course there's a bigger incentive for men to acquire wealth/power, than for women. Why is this wrong?

It would be like me arguing that men should be more represented in the field of super models. Most of us can name a few of them (Adriana Lima etc.), but where is the male counterpart? Does a male supermodel even exist? I believe 100% of supermodels are female.

So what, we should forcefully change the roles and what each sex finds attractive, so that there is a distribution of models more closer to 50/50? That is just absurd. There was a difference in sexual selection during our evolution and we can't erase that. Men will always like young and pretty women, and women will always be attracted to status and power (it goes without saying: IN GENERAL).

So why is then a bigger proportion of men who hold power a problem? It's EXPECTED
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tynamite's avatar After feminism successfully winning the battle for equal rights for women, Third Wave feminism took its place in order to sculpt how sexuality is used and change how women are treated by men in society in the forms of prejudice, typecasting, discrimination, and discouragement.

Feminists like to raise the issue of there being a gender pay gap and how men take up the majority of the positions in power. As men and women have equal rights nowadays, there must be a social reason for this effect.

For one, although women earn 75% of what men do, they're not being discriminated against, as this video shows. It's because of lifestyle choices, that changes what women earn.



Now for proportion of power, evolutionary game theory states that there are only two purposes in life. The first is to be living, and the second is to find a mate or reproduce. Given that women can feed, clothe and house themselves, they must then find a mate to fulfil their second purpose in life. But they've already fulfilled that role, as women have the "choice" role in society, and can pick from a selection of suitors if they so please. Men don't have this option as if a man is single, it's because he cannot get a girlfriend. Also women date more men than men date women.

So it's safe to say that in terms of evolutionary game theory, women have fulfilled their two main purposes in life. So where does that leave the men? For a man to find a woman, it's not enough to be good looking and well off. He must do something proactive to attract women.

Humans are social creatures, and we aspire to have the most and best experiences socially we can have. We all want to be appreciated by others.

If a man wants 50 people to be interested in him, he has to do the brunt of the work, but if a woman wants 50 people to be interested in her, all she has to do is join a dating site. Men secretly know that women are hypergamous, so when they do these things to get power and success, they're unconsciously doing it to attract and impress women.

Women are social stallions who prefer to make their mark on the world socially, which is why significantly few women start creative endeavours than men do. When was the last time you saw a woman try to become a music producer, a writer, an illustrator, or run a startup? Now compare that to men. Women can do the things that men do but they choose not to. Given any subset of society, it's always the men who decide to be the movers and shakers.

And that's why men do everything they do to impress women and/or get laid. Everything else they do, is because they cannot get money or laid because of it, which is what you would call free time. This is evident in how women aren't funny, and how men are funny and have their female peers say "He's so funny" because funny men have an evolutionary advantage, but a woman doesn't need to be funny to get laid.

Women say they'd like to see a balance in the genders in positions of power, but when it comes down to it, they'd rather not do any work to get there. That's why men are more entrepreneurial than women.

Feminists don't believe in gendered roles to be due to genetics, but instead be an artificial construct created by society. For example, they believe women's beauty standards such as the hourglass figure, to be down to society, not genetics, when the hourglass figure is a sign of femininity. More examples is men being better at math and women being better at english, men doing technical roles and women doing service roles. Also they believe that women find emasculated men attractive, and they don't believe in alpha and beta males.

Barack Obama complained that women make 77 cents for every dollar a man makes, but he failed to consider that women make 5 cents less in the same job, which is statistically insignificant. Men and women differ in their career choices in college, which shows that the disparity between the genders, work wise, is due to lifestyle choices and not discrimination.

Consider, for example, how men and women differ in their college majors. Here is a list (PDF) of the ten most remunerative majors compiled by the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce. Men overwhelmingly outnumber women in all but one of them:

1. Petroleum Engineering: 87% male
2. Pharmacy Pharmaceutical Sciences and Administration: 48% male
3. Mathematics and Computer Science: 67% male
4. Aerospace Engineering: 88% male
5. Chemical Engineering: 72% male
6. Electrical Engineering: 89% male
7. Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering: 97% male
8. Mechanical Engineering: 90% male
9. Metallurgical Engineering: 83% male
10. Mining and Mineral Engineering: 90% male

And here are the 10 least remunerative majors—where women prevail in nine out of ten:
1. Counseling Psychology: 74% female
2. Early Childhood Education: 97% female
3. Theology and Religious Vocations: 34% female
4. Human Services and Community Organization: 81% female
5. Social Work: 88% female
6. Drama and Theater Arts: 60% female
7. Studio Arts: 66% female
8. Communication Disorders Sciences and Services: 94% female
9. Visual and Performing Arts: 77% female
10. Health and Medical Preparatory Programs: 55% female

Much of the wage gap can be explained away by simply taking account of college majors. Early childhood educators and social workers can expect to earn around $36,000 and $39,000, respectively. By contrast, petroleum engineering and metallurgy degrees promise median earnings of $120,000 and $80,000. Not many aspiring early childhood educators would change course once they learn they can earn more in metallurgy or mining. The sexes, taken as a group, are somewhat different. Women, far more than men, appear to be drawn to jobs in the caring professions; and men are more likely to turn up in people-free zones. In the pursuit of happiness, men and women appear to take different paths.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-don-t-make-less-money-than-men.html

Women don't have to have an equal proportion of power as men, because they don't want to. And even if they did, it wouldn't matter, because it doesn't hurt their chances of getting power. Prejudice and discouragement women face pursuing technology, technical and leadership roles, is not discouragement. The glass ceiling doesn't exist. In fact less women are unemployed than men, which shows that women are more valued than men.

A feminist reading this, might think that women do want equal power as men, and would love to be accepted in technology, maths and politics. If you look at Why don't more women go to hackathons?, this appears to be the case. However if the tables were turned and it was the men who received the sexism, prejudice and remarks, they would still go to hackathons, as they would love to be in a female environment. Many women chose not to go to hackathons due to prejudice remarks, not misogyny, but prejudice remarks. A woman actually posted in an answer that the question "What does it feel like to be the only woman here" as a contributing factor for her not attending a hackathon. Would a man fail to enter a female environment due to prejudice remarks? I think not.
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