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Would feminists prefer a meritocratic or a half-male-half-female system?
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tynamite's avatar So all the feminists on this page say they'd like a 50/50 gender split or representative split of males and females, yet it be meritocratic. This implies that today, over 200 countries in the world are not meritocratic, because none of them are ruled by females and because they're also under-represented in leadership roles. Think about that for a second. Yes there are no matriarchial countries, but it's too much of a coincidence to think that they are being oppressed in every country. There are over 200 countries in the world, and feminists on this page think that none of them are meritocratic. Feminists think that we live in a world where every country in the world is not meritocratic (for women). Well that's too much of a coincidence.

So why is this? The pay gap doesn't exist and there is no glass ceiling. I spoke to two feminists on this site, and they put it down to discouragement. One said that women are objectified each time they enter male dominated careers, and another said that women are given verbal discouragement, sexual harassment and are denied promotions. In my mind, that's not enough factors to make up for why women are under-represented in leadership roles, considering that discouragement isn't conditioning or discrimination. I didn't think there was enough evidence there, because it wasn't commonplace and widespread enough to make up for the gender disparity that we can see. Maybe science can help.

Take IQ, for example. Despite the noise trotted out by those with lower-to-average intellects about the validity of IQ tests and scores, IQ remains the strongest single indicator of financial abundance, vocational prestige, academic success, and a host of life’s other achievements. On average, men and women have roughly the same IQ, give or take a negligible point or two. The glaring differences, however, arise in how this average is distributed. Compared to women, who tend to flock towards neither extreme, men deviate from the average far more, and thus fill out most numbers at both the top and bottom ends of life in general.

It is for this reason, perhaps more than any other, that the majority of outstanding achievers are men, and have been throughout history. The vast majority of scientists, philosophers, musicians, academics, inventors, writers, political leaders, and so forth, are men. But men also comprise the bulk of society’s scrap heap. The homeless, long-term unemployed, criminals, drug addicts, mental health patients, suicides, mass murderers, alcoholics, and degenerate gamblers are also, overwhelmingly, men.

The IQ variation between the genders is considerable. Mensa International High IQ Society, for example, is composed of a membership in which men outrank women 2 to 1 — roughly the same representation of men to women in Australia’s homeless populations. This sort of imbalance goes a long way to explaining why an even fifty-fifty split between the genders in every area of life is both impossible and misguided.

Science has proven that there are 2x more men with a 120 IQ than women, and there are 30x more men with an 170 IQ than women. Dr Paul Irwing: 'There are twice as many men as women with an IQ of 120-plus' The reverse is also true.

Science has proven that men are more intelligent than women (even though females do better in schools), that men are genetically made to be the resource creators rather than the resource extractors, and why men make up the outstanding achievers as well as the scrap heap of society, whereas women sit in the middle. This is all down to genetics.

It was predetermined in genetics from the moment The Big Bang happened that every country in the world would be patriarchal. It is genetically impossible for there to be a matriarchy or a 50/50 split between the genders. If you want it to be that way, you're only going to be able to achieve it via force, such as affirmative action, women's only colleges and shortlists. The idea that the patriarchy is oppressing women by not allowing them into these fields on an institutionalised and widespread scale within every industry in every country in the world, is a bigger conspiracy theory than 9/11 being an inside job, as there is less evidence for it. Women have equal opportunities in Western society. Any feminist who thinks otherwise is deluded.

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iq distribution and life chances 1

iq distribution and life chances 2

iq distribution and life chances 3

So all the feminists on this page say they'd like a 50/50 gender split or representative split of males and females, yet it be meritocratic. This implies that today, over 200 countries in the world are not meritocratic, because none of them are ruled by females and because they're also under-represented in leadership roles. Think about that for a second. Yes there are no matriarchial countries, but it's too much of a coincidence to think that they are being oppressed in every country. There are over 200 countries in the world, and feminists on this page think that none of them are meritocratic. Feminists think that we live in a world where every country in the world is not meritocratic (for women). Well that's too much of a coincidence.

So why is this? The pay gap doesn't exist and there is no glass ceiling. I spoke to two feminists on this site, and they put it down to discouragement. One said that women are objectified each time they enter male dominated careers, and another said that women are given verbal discouragement, sexual harassment and are denied promotions. In my mind, that's not enough factors to make up for why women are under-represented in leadership roles, considering that discouragement isn't conditioning or discrimination. I didn't think there was enough evidence there, because it wasn't commonplace and widespread enough to make up for the gender disparity that we can see. Maybe science can help.

Take IQ, for example. Despite the noise trotted out by those with lower-to-average intellects about the validity of IQ tests and scores, IQ remains the strongest single indicator of financial abundance, vocational prestige, academic success, and a host of life’s other achievements. On average, men and women have roughly the same IQ, give or take a negligible point or two. The glaring differences, however, arise in how this average is distributed. Compared to women, who tend to flock towards neither extreme, men deviate from the average far more, and thus fill out most numbers at both the top and bottom ends of life in general.

It is for this reason, perhaps more than any other, that the majority of outstanding achievers are men, and have been throughout history. The vast majority of scientists, philosophers, musicians, academics, inventors, writers, political leaders, and so forth, are men. But men also comprise the bulk of society’s scrap heap. The homeless, long-term unemployed, criminals, drug addicts, mental health patients, suicides, mass murderers, alcoholics, and degenerate gamblers are also, overwhelmingly, men.

The IQ variation between the genders is considerable. Mensa International High IQ Society, for example, is composed of a membership in which men outrank women 2 to 1 — roughly the same representation of men to women in Australia’s homeless populations. This sort of imbalance goes a long way to explaining why an even fifty-fifty split between the genders in every area of life is both impossible and misguided.

Science has proven that there are 2x more men with a 120 IQ than women, and there are 30x more men with an 170 IQ than women. Dr Paul Irwing: 'There are twice as many men as women with an IQ of 120-plus' The reverse is also true.

Science has proven that men are more intelligent than women (even though females do better in schools), that men are genetically made to be the resource creators rather than the resource extractors, and why men make up the outstanding achievers as well as the scrap heap of society, whereas women sit in the middle. This is all down to genetics.

It was predetermined in genetics from the moment The Big Bang happened that every country in the world would be patriarchal. It is genetically impossible for there to be a matriarchy or a 50/50 split between the genders. If you want it to be that way, you're only going to be able to achieve it via force, such as affirmative action, women's only colleges and shortlists. The idea that the patriarchy is oppressing women by not allowing them into these fields on an institutionalised and widespread scale within every industry in every country in the world, is a bigger conspiracy theory than 9/11 being an inside job, as there is less evidence for it. Women have equal opportunities in Western society. Any feminist who thinks otherwise is deluded.

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Can you explain from the information in the table image above, of the rows I've highlighted, why there is DIRECT correlation? Of all the rows of the table I've highlighted (that are to do with money, education and prison), they move up or down in succession in each table column. The numbers do not alternate from higher and lower, instead they move in succession. This is not a coincidence!

The higher your IQ is, the more money you make, and the lower your IQ, the more likely you are to be in prison. These are basic facts, controversial yes, but it's true.

Considering that IQs of males range from low to high, and IQs of females sit in the middle, is it due to the patriarchy or genetics, why men make up the outstanding achievers in society (making more money as the table shows), as well as the scrap heap of society (in prison as the table shows)?

it's not oppression i you can ignore it

Men proliferate politics, CEOs and leadership roles not because of the patriarchy causing a glass ceiling, as the glass ceiling does not exist. It's instead due to genetics. Men are generally more intelligent than women.

Look at the table above. It shows that the higher your IQ, the more likely you are to be married and have money, and the lower your IQ, the more likely you are to be in prison and be on welfare.

The real wage gap is explained by common choices by gender.
Like which college major you choose.


10 more remunerative college majors:


  1. Petroleum Engineering: 87% male
  2. Pharmaceutical Sciences and Administration: 48% male
  3. Math and Computer Science: 67% male
  4. Aerospace Engineering: 88% male
  5. Chemical Engineering: 72% male
  6. Electrical Engineering: 89%
  7. Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering: 97% male
  8. Metallurgical Engineering: 83% male
  9. Mining and Mineral Engineering: 90% male


10 least remunerative college majors:


  1. Counseling Psychology: 74% female
  2. Early Childhood Education: 97% female
  3. Theology and Religious Vocations: 35% female
  4. Human Services and Community Organization: 81% female
  5. Social Work: 88% female
  6. Drama and Theater arts: 60% female
  7. Studio Arts: 66% female
  8. Communication Disorders Sciences and Services: 94% female
  9. Visual and performing Arts: 77%
  10. Health and Medical Preparatory Programs: 55% female


Only two majors break the trend:
Pharmaceutical Sciences and Administration: 52% female
Theology and Religious Vocations: 65% male
Males overwhelmingly choose higher paying majors, females lower paying majors.

Avg. Salary:
Early childhood educators or social workers: $36,000-$39,000
Metallurgy and petroleum engineering: $80,000-$120,000
Or:
$.38 — females
$1.00 — males
Based not on gender discrimination, but choice of college major.

Men gravitate towards white collar fields that pay more and women gravitate towards pink collar fields that pay less.

Sources

https://web.archive.org/web/20150214034958/https://www.topmanagementdegrees.com/women-dont-make-less/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/no-women-dont-make-less-money-than-men

So men choose to study white collar fields and women choose to study pink collar fields.

If you're not convinced, that IQ or intelligence is the reason why men proliferate CEOs, politicians and leadership roles, read this.

The jobs that feminists want, are the jobs that have a high IQ. The jobs that women are choosing, are the jobs that require a lower IQ.

This proves 4 things.


  1. 1. Men's jobs have a higher IQ than women's jobs.
  2. 2. Men are more intelligent than women.
  3. 3. People tend to choose the job that allows them to use their IQ to its fullest potential.
  4. 4. Women tend to choose pink collar jobs instead of white collar jobs, because their low IQ isn't stimulated by high IQ work.


Men deviate from the low end of the spectrum to the high end of the spectrum, whereas women sit in the middle. This is why men proliferate the scrapheap and the elites of society, whereas women sit on the middle.

Look at this.

http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/occupations.aspx

Notice how the menial labour jobs at the top of the image are usually done by men (low IQ job that matches their IQ), how the technical STEM fields are done by men (high IQ job that matches their IQ), whereas women, whose IQ is in the middle, accept mid-range IQ jobs, such as social workers and teaching.

Women being underrepresented in posititions of power has nothing to do with the patriarchy causing a glass ceiling, and it has everything to do with women's differing motivations and intelligence.
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